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Perhaps St. Guinness?

As we approach St. Patrick’s Day and celebrate the passionate Christ follower God used to lead so much of Ireland into the Christian faith, it got me pondering another interesting character in Irish history, Arthur Guinness. Both Patrick in the 400’s and Guinness in the 1700’s used beer within the context of Christian mission and ministry. Patrick employed a brewer in his household and often brought beer as a gift to village leaders he was seeking to evangelize. (And try not to read into that any motivation other than beer was truly an appreciated gift!)

I first got a hint about what an amazing individual Arthur Guinness is when the Doyle family in a vacation last spring checking out our ancestral heritage, toured the amazing Guinness Brewery in Dublin. But I never really knew the full Guinness story until Darryl Buckle, our new Pastor of Adult Ministries bought me a gift, a newly published book by USA Today columnist, Stephen Mansfield. It’s titled, “The Search for God and Guinness: A Biography of the Beer that Changed the World?” It was written to celebrate the Guinness Company’s 250th anniversary.

Who would have thought that a book about an iconic Irish stout and the family that had made it famous would actually be a riveting and inspiring read, challenging us how to live and do business for the glory of God. While it might sound strange to some from more traditional evangelical settings, Arthur Guinness was motivated by his deep personal commitment to God to develop a product that would contribute to the good of society through a company devoted to the well being of its employees.

Here are some interesting thoughts that have come from reading Mansfield’s book:

• Arthur Guinness was deeply impacted by John Wesley’s preaching in Dublin. With Wesley he accepted the idea from Psalm 104 that alcohol in moderation was a gift from God “to gladden the heart”. However Wesley deplored the use of distilled beverages such as gin, brandy and whiskey because they led so quickly to the sin of drunkenness. Guinness came to see the brewing of beer as a way to promote the God honouring moderate use of alcohol, while leading people away from the “Gin Houses” that were such a blight in Irish and British society. Brewing beer was part of his mission to make a positive difference in Irish society.

• Guinness founded the first Sunday Schools in Ireland. He fought against dueling. And he chaired the board of a hospital for the poor. He had a huge Christ centred social conscience. As a Protestant he fought for the rights of the oppressed Roman Catholic majority in Ireland.

• The generations that followed Guinness produced not only some very God honouring businessmen, but some passionate pastors as well. In the 1890’s, Rupert Guinness, future head of the brewery, received five million pounds from his father on his wedding day. Shortly after, he moved into a house in the slums and launched a series of programs that served the poor.

• The Guinness brewery routinely paid wages that were 10 to 20 percent higher than average and had a reputation for being the best place to work in Ireland. Guinness paid for all of his employees’ ages 14 to 30 to attend technical schools if they wanted and more advanced school if they qualified. He provided medical and dental health care to the whole family, with doctors and nurses on site; subsidized meals; provided a company funded pension, sports facilities, free concerts … And the list of way over the top generous employee benefits goes on and on. Guinness believed, “You cannot make money from people unless you are wiling for people to make money from you.”

• And then in 2003, scientists at the University of Wisconsin reported that a pint a day of Guinness is good for the human heart, confirming that call to drink a little wine in 1 Timothy 5:23, is relevant today and can be extended to beer!

It’s only been in recent years that major evangelical denominational families like Christian & Missionary Alliance that Redwood Park is a part of, have been officially willing to go back to a balanced biblically grounded understanding regarding the consumption of alcohol. The latest edition of the Manual of the Christian & Missionary Alliance in Canada states:

“The Bible contains guidelines regarding the moderate use of alcohol and warnings regarding its misuse. The misuse of alcohol is damaging to individuals, families and society. The C&MA expects its credentialed workers to exercise their Christian freedom responsibly within the framework of God’s Word.”

Guinness, Wesley and St. Patrick would all have approved.

But what’s most fascinating about the life and legacy of Arthur Guinness is not the novelty of seeing beer as a tool in Christian mission, as much as it’s simply to see how a Christian businessman worked out his faith so holistically through his business. We truly need to see God raise up a few more Arthur Guinness’ in the world!! Oh and Happy St. Patrick’s Day!

March 8, 2010 Posted by Doug Doyle | Life Formation, The Canadian Scene | | 9 Comments

A Christmas Carol

It’s been amazing to watch Charles Dickens’s beloved story, A Christmas Carol impact people so powerfully through Redwood’s six night’s of sold out dinner theatre. It’s a story that touches churched and unchurched alike with it’s simple but powerful call to care for those who have less in our society, to learn how to live beyond ourselves and own selfish wants and needs.

The passion with which a young 31 year old wrote this story is huge. It reflects Dickens’s own journey of fascination with many of the basic themes and values of the Christian faith found in the birth and life of Jesus. At the same time Dickens’s appears to have really struggled with church folk who didn’t look at all like Jesus, who went to church while at the same time being the very folk who exploited the poor and made their profits on the backs of the marginalized.

Dickens’s was raised in a nominally Anglican home, briefly attended a Baptist church that he found quite boring and for awhile in his adulthood he hung out in a Unitarian setting before moving back into Anglicanism. He never settled well in any church setting. Dickens’s, like many Canadians today, liked Jesus, but not the church. Yet Jesus remained fascinating and important to him. So much so that one of the last books he wrote was on the life of Jesus, called “The Life of our Lord.” It’s a retelling of the four Gospels so that his children would be familiar with Jesus. It was not published until 85 years after his death at this request.

When you look at A Christmas Carol you find a story about conversion and transformation, where conversion and transformation cannot take place apart from an encounter with the supernatural. The Gospels would remind us that it is ultimately through an encounter with Jesus Himself that our lives can be touched and changed forever. The Apostle John in his telling of the Christmas story, in the opening of his account of the life of Jesus, invites us to receive Jesus, the Word made flesh into our lives by believing on his name thereby having a supernatural encounter where you become a child of God, reborn of God so to speak.

A Christmas Carol is an eloquent cry for social justice, a plea to care for the poor and the oppressed. This theme is strong throughout the Gospels that teach spiritual vitality is linked to care for the poor. Mary the mother of Jesus when she found out that she was pregnant with God’s son in a psalm of praise we call the Magnificat, said, “My soul glorifies the Lord … he has filled the hungry with good things but has sent the rich away empty.” (Luke 1:46 ,53, NIV) Jesus himself early in his ministry, used the words of the prophet Isaiah to describe his mission: “The Lord has put his Spirit in me, because he appointed me to tell the Good News to the poor. He has sent me to tell the captives they are free and to tell the blind that they can see again. God sent me to free those who have been treated unfairly.” (Luke 4:18, NCV)

Another underlying theme in this Dickens’s classic is that call for life to be enjoyed to the full, not just by the rich, but by the poor, that we are all to “eat, drink and be merry!” It reminds me of Jesus’ words in John 10:10 that he has come that we might have life, and have it to the full. Life that is full of joy and purpose now, and life that goes on forever in eternity bringing glory to God.

Certainly Dickens’s is not overt in directly pointing people to the desire of Jesus to empower our lives so that we live lives of love that impact those in need around us and around the world. But ultimately that is what Christmas is all about, that God so loved the word that he sent his one and only son, that we might experience conversion and transformation through a work of the Holy Spirit that causes us to be people who bring the transforming love of Jesus to people wherever they are.

December 7, 2009 Posted by Doug Doyle | Redwood Park Church, The Canadian Scene | | No Comments Yet

Halloween: Let’s Enjoy it!!

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Creative Redwood Pumpkin Carving!!

From time to time myself, Henry our children’s pastor and Jarret our student ministries pastor get emails or notes of concern about how we at Redwood appear to really enjoy Halloween!! Pumpkin carving parties, costumes, decorations, lots of candy all turn up every year. Don’t we know some ask, “that this is the devils holiday?,” inferring that somehow we might be doing something spiritually dangerous.

The good news is there have been no complaints this year, perhaps the start of a new trend of understanding. In the past I’ve spoken on the issue, written on the issue … and so with the desire to help anyone else understand why we do what we do, here are a few thoughts that I or our staff usually share ever year at this time.

• The word “Halloween” itself is not an evil or bad word. It simply comes out the old Christian church calendar used by mainline churches including the Anglican church that comes from All Hallows Eve, or the Night Before All Saints Day, with the word “hallows” meaning Christian “saints”. It was a time when we celebrated great Christian leaders who God used to change history. Over the years the concept of “venerating” or honouring saints, like we honour great heroes of the faith today, took on some unbiblical baggage that contributed to the Protestant Reformation.

• Martin Luther chose Halloween in the year 1517 as the symbolic day that he would nail 95 Theses to the Door of the Church at Wittenberg that started the Protestant Reformation. In essence the Protestant Church was born on Halloween. Luther was not opposed to the celebration of the heroes of the faith, but he was opposed to how that celebration had developed into something like “praying to the saints”, that they might intercede to God on our behalf, when we have direct access to Christ in prayer.

• The pagan practices of the Druids that some connect with Halloween were not initially associated with Halloween. They happened around the same time of year (late October/ early November) and over time the “days” did end up both being October 31st. But the Druid Samhain festival eventually came to compete with Halloween and in many places overtake it. But Halloween, from All Hallows Eve, is still a Christian not a pagan word, even if Samhain practices now take place on Halloween.

• The fact that some folk do bad stuff on Halloween, mimicking the Druid Samhain festival, is no reason for Christians to withdraw and not have a great party full of fun, costumes and the like. When we withdraw and condemn the Devil wins. Far better for Christians to take the day back and turn it into a great God honouring party. And as we know from Scripture, Jesus was not party adverse!! In fact he would turn up at parties that the religious’ folk thought were too pagan for good believers to be at.

• You may remember the old Larry Norman phrase, “Why should the Devil have all the good music?” He pioneered the use of rock music in the church at a time when you could statistically show that there was a connection between rock music and drug use. In some ways you still can. God used him to redeem something that devil was using. Just because the devil uses it, does not make it wrong. So too we can participate in Halloween in God honouring ways and again take it back from the Evil One.

• December 25th, the day we celebrate Christmas on, was originally a pagan festival to the Sun god, that Christians decided would be great day to celebrate the birth of the Son of God. But the day was originally very pagan. And it still is in some parts. Would we withdraw from celebrating Christmas if Satanists decided to revive old pagan Sun god practices on Christmas day, and police stats went up on that day??

The bottom line is we simply will not allow the Devil to win by taking what is good and positive and fun about Halloween. The colour, the candy, the costumes, the games … Jesus loves them all. And I’m convinced He’s right there in the middle of the party with us. I’m looking forward to All Hallows Eve – both enjoying the colourful party and remembering the birth of the Protestant tradition.

October 28, 2009 Posted by Doug Doyle | Local Church Thoughts, Redwood Park Church, The Canadian Scene | | 6 Comments

WHAT’S REDWOOD READING? Twelve Books of Influence

I’m often asked what authors, theologians and perspectives are influencing us in our thinking at Redwood. Like many churches that insist that they are committed to the authority of the Bible, we realize that we all view Scripture through lenses that we believe most accurately reflect what God intended to communicate through his Word.

As a church that is part of the Christian & Missionary Alliance family of churches we recognize that one of the lenses we look through is that of the holiness tradition. Like all traditions is has its strengths and flaws. Bernie Van De Walle’s, “Heart of the Gospel,” is a wonderful overview of that lens. We’re also absolutely committed to the passion of the Protestant Reformers to question all traditions, including our own, in light of Scripture. That has led us to rediscover the “whole” Gospel, that the over arching plan of God is to rescue not only individuals from their sin, but this entire planet: that we are responsible to bring the whole gospel to the whole world. The book list that follows reflects those themes and a little bit more. So here goes …

Hole in our GospelThe Hole in our Gospel
Richard Stearns (Thomas Nelson, 2009)
World Vision’s American president articulates well that the Gospel is far more than announcing how an individual can experience salvation, it’s bringing God’s kingdom wholistically into this word.

Surprised By Hope: Rethinking Heaven, The Resurrection and the Mission of the Church
NT Wright (Haprer Collins, 2008)
A refreshing look at what the Bible teaches about the new heavens and the new earth, and how what we do now will have eternal impact. A call to not stop at just leading individuals to faith but to anticipate the eventual renewal of our world by bringing healing and hope in this present world now

Jesus Creed: Loving God, Loving Others
Scot McKnight (Paraclete Press, 2004)
A clear articulation of Jesus vision statement for his followers, that we are to passionately love God and passionately love our neighbours. Get this right, and you get the Christian faith right.

Blue Parakeet: Rethinking How You Read the Bible
Scott McKnight (Zondervan, 2008)
Could be the best book out there to help you make sense of the bible as a whole, and how to approach difficult passages.

Seeing Gray in a World of Black and White: Thoughts on Religion, Morality and Politics
Adam Hamilton (Abingdon Press, 2008)
A call to live in the middle between fundamentalism and liberalism. Whether we agree with Hamilton or not, and I don’t on all issues, he helps us understand where we draw our boundaries, calling us to learn how to see gray in a world of black and white.

Spirited Leadership: Empowering People To Do What Matters
Thomas G. Bandy (Chalice Press, 2007)
A great primer on governance and staff relations, calling us to put the emphasis on empowering others to serve well. Quite profound, it’s not an easy read.

Re Jesus: A Wild Messiah for a Missional Church – The Posture and Practices of Ancient Church Now
Michael Frost & Alan Hirsch (Hendrickson, 2009)
A good read about current thinking on the emergent/missional church movement that passionately wants to see the church be Jesus to the world.

Chosen But Free: A Balanced View of Divine Election
Norman Geisler (Bethany Press, 1999)
A great study on the relationship between divine election and human choice, from a classical evangelical scholar.

The Tangible Kingdom: Creating Incarnational Community
Hugh Halter and Matt Smay (Jossey-Bass, 2008)
Another well articulated call that the church is to reach back to some of it’s ancient roots and become again a community, that is truly the arms and legs of Jesus to a world in need.

A Community Called Atonement
Scot McKnight (Abingdon, 2007)
A wonderful exploration of how robust and multifaceted the doctrine of the atonement is, taking us beyond a traditional focus on penal substitution, helping us to better understand the breadth and depth of the work of Christ through his death and resurrection.

The Heart of the Gospel: A.B. Simpson, The Fourfold Gospel, and Lake Nineteenth Century Evangelical Theology
Bernie A. Van De Walle (Pickwick Publications, 2009)
A compelling read about what theologically shaped the founding vision of the Christian & Missionary Alliance of which Redwood Park is a part. Helps us to better understand what the holiness movement was all about and how it differs from other perspectives like the Reformed viewpoint.

Simply Christian : Why Christianity Makes Sense
NT Wright (Harper Collins: 2006)
Simply a great place to start if you want to understand a summary of what it means to be Christian.

September 25, 2009 Posted by Doug Doyle | The Canadian Scene | | 3 Comments

The Summit, Catalyst & The Changing Face of Missions

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I found Willow’s Leadership Summit held at the beginning of August to be yet again an amazingly powerful and empowering experience. The Summit took some of the themes that surfaced at the Catalyst West Conference and pushed them further, with noticeably more octane than at Catalyst. One of the common issues to both was the call to a more wholistic practice of missions, locally and globally. After attending both conferences, let me list a few thoughts that have struck me on the missions front:

  • You can’t get past the idea that our approach to missions locally and globally is shifting quickly and radically to a more wholistic approach where tangible actions are equal to words. It’s not either/or it’s both/and.  One without the other is illegitimate.
  • The word “gospel” itself, as found in the great commission in Matthew 28, is being broadened to reflect the words of Jesus in the prayer he left us,  where “gospel” means “seeing God’s kingdom come, God’s will done increasingly on earth as it is in heaven”.  The Lord’s prayer (Matthew 6) is being linked with the words of Jesus about how the “least of these” are being treated (Matthew 25), with the meaning of the great commission (Matthew 28). This is in no way diminishing the commitment to how the word “gospel” is used in the epistles (i.e. Romans 1:16), but the epistles are being increasingly interpreted through the eyes of the four Gospels and the words of Jesus himself.
  • Organizations like World Vision and Compassion International that have been seen as on the edges (probably the left edge!) of the evangelical missions movement are now moving into the centre and taking the lead. Richard Stearns’ (World Vision) “The Hole in our Gospel: What Does God Expect of Us?,” and Wes Stafford’s (Compassion International) “Too Small To Ignore: Why the Least of These Matters Most,” are rallying cries to tangibly “be” good news before and as we speak good news.
  • Dave Gibbons from New Song Church in Irvine California is being lifted up as icon of a lead pastor who has helped his church make the paradigm shift to wholistic missions. His book, “The Monkey and the Fish: Liquid Leadership for a Third-Culture Church,” represents a significant paradigm shift in how local churches approach missions. Gibbons appears to be in line with, maybe even further along than Bob Roberts Jr., whose book “Glocalization: How Followers of Jesus Engage a Flat World,” paints an inspiring but radical picture of his churches commitment to wholistic mission locally and around the world.

Within my own church family, The Christian & Missionary Alliance, you can begin to see some shift in this direction, but it’s tough and slow and still very much on the fringes. Ironically we were far more wholistic in our founding than we’ve become in the last 100 years. Unfortunately that’s true of most of evangelicalism. Our current Canadian Alliance president, Dr. Franklin Pyles, has raised the issue eloquently at various times, but unfortunately appears to be significantly further ahead on this issue than the church family as whole. I’m praying for change!

Arena08_1024x768Personally I’m ashamed to say that like many evangelicals, for decades I bought into the party line that depreciated the words of Jesus in passages like those found in Matthew 25, or the heart of God found in Isaiah 58, in favour of a narrower view of the Gospel that made “words” far more valuable than “deeds”.  In the process I was part of a movement that promoted something that I’ve only recently come to understand as being less than the “gospel.”  Sadly Canadians intuitively rejected this somewhat insipid gospel while continuing to say that they were impressed by the life and teachings of Jesus.  Perhaps Canadians will be more responsive when we get back to a more biblically consistent wholistic gospel. I’m praying for that too!

I do apologize and repent of presenting less than the whole Gospel in years gone by. But now, as for me and any ministry I lead or am involved with, using the words of Richard Stearns, I will seek to live out and invite others to “both embody and proclaim the gospel, so that others can see, hear, and feel God’s love in tangible ways.”

August 23, 2009 Posted by Doug Doyle | Local Church Thoughts, Redwood Park Church, Reflecting Theologically, The Canadian Scene | | 1 Comment

Hybels: Pulls Through Again!!

For those of you waiting for another post about Catalyst West, it’s coming, but last week I had a phenomenal experience that that blew away Catalyst West, as great as Catalyst west was! I had the opportunity to spend a full day in a Q&A setting with one the great influencers in my life, Bill Hybels. Two hours, where a small group of us connected with him around a board table and then another 3 hours in a larger classroom setting. I’ve had a couple of previous opportunities to connect with him in small group settings, but for the most part he’s been more of a mentor at a distance. So this board table meeting in particular was way cool. I did discover that Redwood Park Church is the very first Canadian church to become a part of the Willow Creek Association. Scott Cochrane the new executive director of Willow Creek Canada made a bit of a deal of that!

Hybels, Bill headshotWhat impressed me most was how Hybels continues to lead Willow in a way that keeps the ministry fresh and in-tune with the waves of culture, while keeping the church very much centred on it’s original vision to reach folk apart from a life-giving relationship with Christ . Willow is not stuck in how they’ve done things in the past, while being very aware that they are working with a huge ship that doesn’t change direction on a dime. Hybels is a leader who navigates change with great wisdom and discernment, who is not afraid to do what’s needed to keep the ship pointed in the direction of missional effectiveness, while instilling confidence among the fearful that change is good and necessary.

So let me list a few changes happening at Willow that perhaps we could all learn from:

  • Midweek classes work. Willow has had a huge win in transforming it’s midweek believer service into a series of classes and courses that work with those exploring faith right through to those looking for deeper seminary style classes. The sense that some folk had they were not getting enough “deeper teaching” has dramatically decreased because of this change. Folk at Willow have really bought into attending classes geared to meet a diversity of needs, passions and levels of academic depth.
  • Worship led by the younger generation crosses generational lines. Willow has opted to allow it’s younger generation to take the lead in creating and leading a weekend worship experience that is more passionate, intimate and interactive. Worship geared more towards 20-somethings appears to have the greatest reach across all generational lines. However what Hybels does to keep youthful worship from crashing with the older generations is he spends 2 hours a week working with the worship planners on the service, and he personally signs off on every song and every announcement and every moment on the order of service. It sounds controlling, but I realize it’s the key to allowing 20 to young 30-somethings lead while insuring that the older generations remain positively impacted. What Willow appears to have learned is that certain values that frame more youthful postmodern worship have broad appeal, within perhaps a few boundaries.
  • The worship order is no longer tightly tied to the message. Willow is no longer interested in how closely everything fits the theme of the service. More important is that a worship environment is created that allows for a profound encounter with God Himself. Willow has moved from creating a well packaged presentation of biblical truth, to creating an experience where Truth is encountered. This is a huge shift in Willow’s thinking.
  • Flexibility around worship is the new value.  There is now room in Willow to change a song, somewhat re-order the flow of worship in the midst of worship, if the leader feels so prompted. Yes they still plan carefully, but they are no longer as tightly bound to the plan. They are no longer planning the worship year out a year in advance, but maybe just 4 or 5 weeks in advance. Hybels himself now has the freedom the change the message midweek before weekend worship,  if he feels so prompted.
  • The end of a worship service is now blurred. There is a 10 to 15 minute period of time after the message where the worship team remains on the platform and sings, while some folk sit and pray in their seats, and other folk get up and go for prayer or to other stations to work through what they sense God is saying to them. They want to leave time for folk to work through their encounter with God. (Think of the implications here for Children’s ministry!)
  • Those on the platform must be able to “move the room,” though authentic expression of devotion and passion.  This is particularly true of vocalists and worship leaders. Those giving announcements, leading in prayer and not just the speaker need to be able to move a room. The way Bill put it, “no dead eyes allowed.” Willow will put someone on the vocal team with less skill than someone else musically, if they have the ability to authentically communicate through their facial and body expressions. Racial diversity on the platform also remains a must.
  • There needs to be more consistency among those who are on the platform. The extent of team teaching at Willow created a significant sense of inconsistency and lack of focus for the congregation, so Hybels is again the main speaker supplemented by a smaller team. The same is true of those who lead worship and play other roles on the platform. Folk in the seats highly value the relationship they develop with a handful of key platform leaders.
  • Being “Jesus” to the community is a big deal. Social justice and ministry to the poor and marginalized in their city and around the world have become front burner issues at Willow.  Faith has become very much what you do and not just who you are. The whole Willow family feels a part of something much bigger than just themselves and folk like themselves.

Shortly after Willow got into its new facility it began to stagnate and perhaps even decline numerically. But as it has made significant adjustments to it’s mid-week approach to teaching and it’s weekend worship, that has turned all around. A church that had peaked and begun to decline at the 20,000 mark has turned that around in the last couple of years and is now over 25,000. Even in the midst of a difficult economy where Willow has laid off 27 staff, growth has continued.

So much more was packed into those 5 hours! Suffice it to say that Willow and Hybles continue to have much to teach us.

May 11, 2009 Posted by Doug Doyle | Local Church Thoughts, Redwood Park Church, The Canadian Scene | | 6 Comments

Catalyst West and Origins: A Few Thoughts!!

catalyst-worship1So I got a handful of people asking if I’m going to say anything about my time at Catalyst West and Origins last week. So with such enthusiastic encouragement I’ll begin to post a few thoughts over the course of the next week or so. The problem with being away, is you gotta catch up, so attending to the blog world is sometimes a challenge for me!!

Let me quickly jot down a few initial thoughts about both the pre-Catalyst Origins Conference as well as the Catalyst West Conference itself.  Origins was more challenging and much less safe than Catalyst as a whole, but the whole experience was very much worthwhile for a dude over 50 hanging out with folk mostly under 35!

  • While both Origins and Catalyst were excellent experiences, for me personally the Origins Conference was overall a better and more helpful experience. McManus’ thinking on living the kingdom out in three spaces was helpful for me (I’ll blog later on that!), getting into the mind of Dave Gibbons of Newsong Church and being introduced to his concept of third cultures churches that are passionate about addressing the local and global concerns of justice, advocacy and the poor was hugely inspiring.  I gotta look more at what he and his church are doing locally and globally.
  • I really enjoyed Mark Batterson at Origins. His enthusiasm to grow a Spirit directed ministry would resonate strongly with anyone raised in the Christian & Missionary Alliance. He speaks with the  passion of an AB Simpson, just in 21st century terms. David Acros of Mosaic stretched me with his call to embrace the chaos that  storms bring in order to see Spirit empowered creativity emerge. He even suggested that there’s a role to play in creating storms for the advance of the kingdom.  He made chaos and storms look pretty exciting! He’s almost got me saying, “Chaos, storms … bring it on!!”
  • I didn’t hear Alan Hirsch speak with his wife on their new book. Very few attended their session. And on our team, a Hirsch fan who did was hugely disappointed, as apparently they really had nothing to say. Overall Origins/Catalyst was not a conference for Alan Hirsch devotees. He’s just a bit too cynical and harsh about mainstream evangelicalism to fit here.  Perhaps that’s why he was so cautious at Origins??
    • I didn’t check Dan Kimball out as much as I could have, I can’t handle his hair. J What little I saw of him suggested that he tends to speak with a bit of a chip on his shoulder.  It seemed a bit louder than in his books, but to be fair I only caught him in a panel discussion. I do like his books!
    • I was disappointed that not one mention was made of Earth Day during the Origins conference. The Canadians and Australians both noticed that, but our U.S. hosts seemed oblivious to it all – in my mind a somewhat indicting  reality about elements of American evangelicalism.  I give a big thumbs down on that one!!
    • I usually like Rick Warren, but not as much here. He came with his own agenda and wouldn’t let Andy Stanly actually interview him. He had some great things to say, like really good things to say, but it all got lost in how much he promoted himself and the success of Saddleback and by the fact that he took over and didn’t allow Andy Stanley to lead the interview. Despite the standing ovation some gave him, I think he did huge damage to his reputation among most who were there. A lot of folk wanted to give Andy Stanley a standing ovation for how graceful he was in that situation.
    • As I’ve suggested Catalyst was a bit safer than Origins. Yes it’s geared for the under 35 crowd, but in many ways this conference was geared to mainstream evangelicalism that is not necessarily emergent, but under 35. Those in attendance were by far under 35. In many ways this conference served to underscore mainstream evangelical values that sometimes the emergent movement is questioning.  The speakers were not all on the same page, which was helpful, but there was nothing extremely left or extremely emergent, or extremely right or extremely reformed.
    • Catalyst West reminded me that even among the under 35 crowd, they are very much divided among the broad evangelical spectrum.  Among the diversity you have  the emergents, who I sense are really still a minority, just a loud minority. On the other side your got the passionately loud young Reformed crowd, the Mark Discollites among them. And Catalyst is kind of in the middle of all that.
    • The comedy duo of Tripp Crosby and Tyler Stauton who assisted Jud Whilte in emceeing were mint! Sometimes Jud tried a little too hard to keep up with that duo!
    • Hillsongs United led worship on the first day of Catalyst and that was simply mint, even double mint!

    Now I feel a bit awkward being this upfront and honest about my reactions, because all of the speakers are great men of God. I respect all of them and have learned from all of them.  I don’t believe in really dissing people I don’t see eye to eye with, but rather prefer to promote what I believe without putting others down.  But I also know that some of you are looking for my gut level honest reactions that you might get from a private conversations with me.

    Overall it was a great experience from start to finish that introduced me to some new thoughts, to some new leaders while affirming many of the perspectives that I hold passionately too. It’s worth getting the MP3’s and listening to quite a few of the talks!!

    April 30, 2009 Posted by Doug Doyle | Reflecting Theologically, The Canadian Scene | | 2 Comments

    This Is Redwood!

    Hey, check out the new “This Is Redwood” video produced by Matt Popowich. It really does a good job of capturing the flavour of Redwood as a missional community committed to experiencing the “Life, Passion, and Adventure,” of  knowing Jesus; a community committed to impacting our families, city and world with the transforming message and life of Chirst.  Hey Matt, thanks for a job well done!! 

     

    April 18, 2009 Posted by Doug Doyle | The Canadian Scene | | 1 Comment

    Easter — It’s All About Love!!

    I wrote the article that follows for the Easter edition of the Chronicle Journal … thought I’d post it here for those of you who don’t read Thunder Bay’s fine daily paper …

     rainbow_manYou don’t see him as much anymore, the guy with the rainbow-coloured afro-style wig turning up at every major television sports event with his John 3:16 sign, although I have noticed a few churched types sporting John 3:16 T-shirts. Most folk don’t know what to make of the John 3:16 sign or T-shirt, except with good Canadian politeness, quietly write it off as just a bit weird.

     John 3:16 – it’s the spot in the Bible where the these words of Jesus are recorded, “God loved the world so much that he gave his one and only Son so that whoever believes in him may not be lost, but have eternal life.” (NCV)

    Easter is the ultimate demonstration of love, where we see how the Creator of the Universe in his passionate irrational love for the people he made, entered this world to live among us, as one of us through Jesus. And then he allowed his own creation to brutally nail him to a cross, only to bust through death itself three days later!

     Christians, through the teaching of the Scriptures, understand that this death and resurrection of Jesus has made a way for us to access life as it was meant to be – full of love, freedom and peace, and to access this life for eternity. And because of this love we personally experience from God’s hand, authentic Christ followers seek to live and love like Jesus, pouring out our lives sacrificially on behalf of those who need and yearn to experience God’s love in personal and tangible ways.  

     Further, Christians understand that the death and resurrection of Jesus is God’s expression of love towards his entire creation, towards the entire world, making it possible for not only for you and I to experience healing and wholeness, but ultimately for this planet to experience healing and wholeness. Christians look forward to the promised new creation, the new earth and new heaven made possible by the cross and resurrection. As a result they do all that they can to see pockets of restoration and healing pop up all over the world, in anticipation of what is promised to come.

     It really is all about our God who so loved the world, including you and me, even in the midst of the human mess we get so entangled in; as well as our planet, even in the midst the decay and degradation it continues to experience.  He so loved us and our planet that he made way through Jesus to see all that is wrong made right.

     Jesus said the Christian faith and all of the Scriptures can be best summed by these words: “Love the Lord your God with all your heart, and all your soul, and all your mind and all your strength.  And love your neighbor as yourself.  There are no commands more important than these.”  (NCV)

     We respond to the God who so loved as at Easter, by loving him with everything we’ve got. And to love God the way he wants us to love means loving our neighbour, even as we love ourselves. It means giving our lives for the sake of our neighbours here and around the world, it means helping our neighbour experience the love of God for themselves, including touching the very neighbourhoods they live in with a bit of this promised new creation.  We love because He first loved us. And like Jesus, we love not just with words but with sacrificial action.

     This  Easter season, why don’t you check out a local gathering of Christ followers for yourself, and see if you don’t just personally experience God’s life transforming love, that in turn will empower you to love and live sacrificially in a city and world of deep need. 

    April 11, 2009 Posted by Doug Doyle | Reflecting Theologically, The Canadian Scene | | 1 Comment

    Left, Right or Radical Middle?

    A few years a ago a small group of us within the Christian & Missionary Alliance family of Churches began to describe ourselves as being in the “radical middle,” of the theological and philosophical spectrum of church life. But after reading Adam Hamilton’s “Seeing Gray in World of Black and White: Thoughts on Religion, Morality, and Politics,” I realized that my definition of “middle,”  was bound by a much narrower spectrum of “the church,” than that held by Adam Hamilton, pastor of the 14,000 strong United Methodist Church of the Resurrection, in Leawood, Kansas.  Cleary our “radical middle” is a bit to the right of what Hamilton calls the “radical center.”

    seeing-gray-41Hamilton is promoting what he calls a middle path between the fundamentalism of Jerry Falwell and the liberalism of John Shelby Spong. Truth is, typical of so many from evangelical backgrounds, I’ve never included John Shelby Spong along with those of the Jesus Seminar ilk, within the spectrum of what I understand to be the broader church family. I figure you need to at least be able to affirm the historic creeds such as the Apostles and Nicene creeds to make any claim to be authentically Christian. Some would call that an “evangelical bias,” but many of my Catholic and Orthodox friends also hold to that bias.

    And on the other-side, while Jerry Falwell lies clearly to the right of where I land, his life and ministry was far more moderate than that of many fundamentalists. Making it even more interesting, while that small group of Alliance friends see ourselves as being in the “radical middle,” others within our own church family might describe us being a bit to the left. It does all depend on where you draw your lines.  

    And while my “middle” lands to the right of Hamilton’s “middle,” I found his overarching theme of the need to bring the social gospel and the personal evangelical gospel together, understanding that neither is complete apart from the other, as a much needed corrective for the church today. On the issue of holiness, his call to find the “sweet spot” between legalism and libertinism is critical for any church desirous of having lasting impact in our culture.

    My sense is that he aligns with Brian McLaren and McLaren’s views of “Generous Orthodoxy,” and in the process arrives at a few conclusions related to an understanding of the bible and salvation that are quite left of where I’m comfortable. However unlike some of my friends who land to the right of myself, I don’t see these guys so much as dangerous heretics, as much as I see them as sincere Christ followers who have allowed themselves to drift further than what I believe is biblically warranted. I see them as brothers in Christ with whom I do not see eye to eye. That doesn’t prevent me from appreciating them and learning from them.

     Back in the late 70’s when I attended what is now Tyndale Seminary in Toronto, the ethos my professors impressed on me was the well known quotation of unknown origins, “In essentials, unity, in doubtful matters, liberty, in all things, charity.” Even if my middle lands to the right of a guy like Adam Hamilton, I’m reminded of the need to remain charitable and to be willing to listen and dialogue and learn from those like Hamilton to the left of me, or those to the right of me who align with the theology and philosophy of a Jerry Falwell. 

    So I do like the idea of “generous orthodoxy,” even if I don’t appear to be as generous in my orthodoxy as some. I like the idea of seeing gray in a world of black and white, even if I don’t see gray in quite the same places.  In my passion to uphold the Jesus ethic of love of God and love of neighbour, I will choose remain charitable towards those who draw their lines differently than myself, especially those who hold tenaciously to a personally relationship with Jesus as their forgiver and leader.  

    March 23, 2009 Posted by Doug Doyle | Reflecting Theologically, The Canadian Scene | | 4 Comments