Catalyst West and Origins: A Few Thoughts!!
So I got a handful of people asking if I’m going to say anything about my time at Catalyst West and Origins last week. So with such enthusiastic encouragement I’ll begin to post a few thoughts over the course of the next week or so. The problem with being away, is you gotta catch up, so attending to the blog world is sometimes a challenge for me!!
Let me quickly jot down a few initial thoughts about both the pre-Catalyst Origins Conference as well as the Catalyst West Conference itself. Origins was more challenging and much less safe than Catalyst as a whole, but the whole experience was very much worthwhile for a dude over 50 hanging out with folk mostly under 35!
- While both Origins and Catalyst were excellent experiences, for me personally the Origins Conference was overall a better and more helpful experience. McManus’ thinking on living the kingdom out in three spaces was helpful for me (I’ll blog later on that!), getting into the mind of Dave Gibbons of Newsong Church and being introduced to his concept of third cultures churches that are passionate about addressing the local and global concerns of justice, advocacy and the poor was hugely inspiring. I gotta look more at what he and his church are doing locally and globally.
- I really enjoyed Mark Batterson at Origins. His enthusiasm to grow a Spirit directed ministry would resonate strongly with anyone raised in the Christian & Missionary Alliance. He speaks with the passion of an AB Simpson, just in 21st century terms. David Acros of Mosaic stretched me with his call to embrace the chaos that storms bring in order to see Spirit empowered creativity emerge. He even suggested that there’s a role to play in creating storms for the advance of the kingdom. He made chaos and storms look pretty exciting! He’s almost got me saying, “Chaos, storms … bring it on!!”
- I didn’t hear Alan Hirsch speak with his wife on their new book. Very few attended their session. And on our team, a Hirsch fan who did was hugely disappointed, as apparently they really had nothing to say. Overall Origins/Catalyst was not a conference for Alan Hirsch devotees. He’s just a bit too cynical and harsh about mainstream evangelicalism to fit here. Perhaps that’s why he was so cautious at Origins??
- I didn’t check Dan Kimball out as much as I could have, I can’t handle his hair. J What little I saw of him suggested that he tends to speak with a bit of a chip on his shoulder. It seemed a bit louder than in his books, but to be fair I only caught him in a panel discussion. I do like his books!
- I was disappointed that not one mention was made of Earth Day during the Origins conference. The Canadians and Australians both noticed that, but our U.S. hosts seemed oblivious to it all – in my mind a somewhat indicting reality about elements of American evangelicalism. I give a big thumbs down on that one!!
- I usually like Rick Warren, but not as much here. He came with his own agenda and wouldn’t let Andy Stanly actually interview him. He had some great things to say, like really good things to say, but it all got lost in how much he promoted himself and the success of Saddleback and by the fact that he took over and didn’t allow Andy Stanley to lead the interview. Despite the standing ovation some gave him, I think he did huge damage to his reputation among most who were there. A lot of folk wanted to give Andy Stanley a standing ovation for how graceful he was in that situation.
- As I’ve suggested Catalyst was a bit safer than Origins. Yes it’s geared for the under 35 crowd, but in many ways this conference was geared to mainstream evangelicalism that is not necessarily emergent, but under 35. Those in attendance were by far under 35. In many ways this conference served to underscore mainstream evangelical values that sometimes the emergent movement is questioning. The speakers were not all on the same page, which was helpful, but there was nothing extremely left or extremely emergent, or extremely right or extremely reformed.
- Catalyst West reminded me that even among the under 35 crowd, they are very much divided among the broad evangelical spectrum. Among the diversity you have the emergents, who I sense are really still a minority, just a loud minority. On the other side your got the passionately loud young Reformed crowd, the Mark Discollites among them. And Catalyst is kind of in the middle of all that.
- The comedy duo of Tripp Crosby and Tyler Stauton who assisted Jud Whilte in emceeing were mint! Sometimes Jud tried a little too hard to keep up with that duo!
- Hillsongs United led worship on the first day of Catalyst and that was simply mint, even double mint!
Now I feel a bit awkward being this upfront and honest about my reactions, because all of the speakers are great men of God. I respect all of them and have learned from all of them. I don’t believe in really dissing people I don’t see eye to eye with, but rather prefer to promote what I believe without putting others down. But I also know that some of you are looking for my gut level honest reactions that you might get from a private conversations with me.
Overall it was a great experience from start to finish that introduced me to some new thoughts, to some new leaders while affirming many of the perspectives that I hold passionately too. It’s worth getting the MP3’s and listening to quite a few of the talks!!
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hey doug, great to hear your initial thoughts. I went to catalyst east last year and I was really hoping to get out to west this year but alas, it wasn’t meant to be. Do you know if origins sessions will be available to purchase/download? Plus, I think you’ve been spending too much time with the under 35 crowd, mint and double mint? maybe just jarret. ha ha. glad you had a great time.
Hey James, thanks for the feedback. you can check out http://www.catalystspace.com/store/categories/Catalyst-2009/ for the origins but I haven’t seen them available apart from the whole conference.